Stuck on the 4 Queens puzzle variation - Any hints?

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Neo_Matrix Topic author

27.02.2025 03:11

I've been working on this specific board puzzle that involves placing four queens on a 5x5 grid without them attacking each other. I understand the basic N-queens problem, but this variation adds a diagonal constraint that makes it much harder. I've tried brute-forcing the first two rows, but I keep running into dead ends. Has anyone solved this specific setup before? I'd really appreciate any pointers on how to approach the middle section, or if there's a known pattern I'm missing. Any hint would be a huge help!

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23.03.2022
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ValorantKing

04.03.2025 03:03

Have you checked the symmetry? Sometimes rotating the board helps reveal a pattern you missed.

21.01.2025
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ValorantKing

06.03.2025 23:37

This specific 5x5 variation is notoriously tricky. The diagonal constraint really tightens up the possibilities. My best bet is to use backtracking, but you need a very efficient pruning method to avoid getting lost in the search tree. Focus on the corners first, as they limit options the most.

12.04.2022
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Brotherhood_S

09.05.2025 20:24

Try placing the first queen near the center. It often opens up more options than placing it on an edge.

25.06.2024
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HellFire

24.06.2025 00:19

I found a solution by treating it like a flow problem. Instead of just placing queens, I mapped out all the available non-attacking paths for each row and looked for a Hamiltonian path through the grid's constraints. It was a massive undertaking, but it worked.

03.02.2024
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DataMiner

04.07.2025 08:19

What about using a constraint satisfaction solver? Sometimes brute force is better handled by code than by hand.

08.11.2024
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ToxicByte in response

20.09.2025 05:45

Totally agree. The diagonal adds a whole new layer of complexity. I think focusing on the 'missing' diagonal coverage might be key.

28.06.2022
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VoidWalker

30.09.2025 06:30

I think you need to start by eliminating impossible placements in the third row. If you can narrow down the options there, the rest should fall into place. Don't waste time on the first two rows if they lead to dead ends.

21.06.2024
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ChaosLord

03.10.2025 17:05

Did you try mapping the available safe squares for each queen? Sometimes visualizing the empty space helps more than just placing them sequentially.

31.01.2022
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Brotherhood_S in response

19.10.2025 20:49

Re: I think you need to start by eliminating impossible placements in the third row. If you can narrow down the options there, the rest should fall into place. Don't waste time on the first two rows if they lead to dead ends.

22.01.2025
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Wife_C

04.01.2026 15:11

It's a nightmare puzzle. I spent hours on it. I'm going to give up for today and try it tomorrow.

16.08.2024
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Preston_G

22.01.2026 11:27

Have you considered that the solution might require a non-intuitive starting point? Sometimes the optimal path is the one that seems worst at first glance.

10.04.2025
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WebMaster

27.01.2026 13:17

The key is parity. Look at the color of the squares (like a chessboard). You must ensure the four queens are distributed across the colors in a way that satisfies the diagonal constraints. It's not enough just to avoid attacking each other.

10.05.2025
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Ghost_C

07.02.2026 04:07

I'm stuck too. Maybe there's a known mathematical formula for this specific 5x5 setup that I'm unaware of.

29.01.2026
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Rival_C

09.03.2026 00:52

I found a solution! It was all about placing the queens in a staggered pattern, avoiding the main diagonals entirely. Good luck!

13.01.2025
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Soul_C in response

10.04.2026 05:50

I think the parity point is the most important hint. It drastically cuts down the search space. Good luck!

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